In a recent interview with investigative journalist Ross Coulthart, U.S. Air Force and special warfare veteran Fred Baker shared his anomalous experiences and insights into the existence of non-human intelligence. Baker, a highly respected figure in the Air Force combat controller and special operations community, has been vocal about his encounters with unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP).

During the interview, Baker discussed his collaboration with UFO whistleblower Jake Barber, who claims to have worked on a secret government UFO retrieval program. Baker vouched for Barber's credibility, emphasizing the significance of his revelations. Baker also delved into his personal psionic experiences, shedding light on phenomena that challenge conventional understanding. He expressed his belief in the possibility of non-human intelligence, citing both his own experiences and the accounts of others in the military community.